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Posted by rightarmover on June 19 2008, 04:03 AM GMT Sidebottom is just a bowler, nothing special, i would put Steyn and Lee as the top fast Bowlers in the world at the moment, The rest are good but not great. He's got a big heart and i put him on a tier below Steyn and Lee and put him on the level with blokes like Ntini, Zaheer, Hoggard, Pathan and an ageing Vaas, Honest tryers but not world beaters. Posted by Finnster on June 05 2008, 08:18 AM GMT And of course, the irony here is, as we've disputed the toss of the coin, Lee has just quietly completed an 8 for 110 Test Match - and not in Australia! Posted by Finnster on June 04 2008, 14:59 PM GMT Phat-Boy, your repeated "he's Australian so he must be No.1" comment is making your bias and blind spot a little obvious. So, the West Indies are only just realising Lee's only "in a good patch" of 2 good seasons, are they? I rather think they paid a little more attention to his 5-for than you can bear to. Or doesn't that one count, either? Posted by TheDoctor394 on June 04 2008, 00:41 AM GMT I'm quite bemused by a lot of the comments on this article. Maybe it overstated Sidebottom's quality a bit, but the main point was to say that he has come back and done extremely well. And that is a fact. Figures prove it. It's all very well to say but he's done it mainly against weak opposition, but you can only perform against whom you're playing, and his performances have been outstanding. However, I certainly agree with people mentioning Stuart Clark. His young career has been incredible so far, and he deserves more recognition. In regards to English bias, as an Englishman living in Australia, it's refreshing to hear English bias for a change, instead of Australian. :) Posted by Phat-Boy on June 01 2008, 03:24 AM GMT Really. Brett Lee has averaged almost 28 since the '05 Ashes. good, but not outrageous. I simply do not understand how 2 good series all of a sudden translates into what most people are saying is 3 years of superb form. Even as we speak, the West Indies are finding out that Lee was simply in a good patch. He's Australian though so he has to be number one.... Posted by Finnster on May 29 2008, 15:32 PM GMT Well, this is a surprise. I seriously didn't consider anyone could possibly argue against Lee being the best. Perhaps people aren't considering that the Lee of post-Ashes '05 is a completely different creature than he used to be when express bowling was his total focus. His form over the last few years has been without peer. Even with his poorer pre-05 averages taken into account, he still has an average of under 30. People who suggest his accuracy is erratic simply haven't seen him bowl for the past few years. Posted by plod on May 29 2008, 04:22 AM GMT To John Stern and all the other respondents, I am a cricket tragic and watch all Sky/Fox coverage of cricket all around the world. Have seen all the test playing nations live in Oz and on the Telly. Firstly Ryan Sidebottom. I am surprised at what respondents are saying is the speed at which he bowls. 90mph!! I'd like to see the proof. He is a swing bowler with ability. But military medium I would guess. No argument. But unlikely to trouble any test batsmen when conditions are not humid and on green tops. He is not a super accurate bowler. I think his weight, fitness levels and lack of athleticism are all negatives. England with Sidebottom and Panesar in the field rank with all the cellar dweller's nations as far as fielding goes. Despite what your Indian/Pakistani correspondents claim, Australia is the measuring stick. Sidebottom has not been tested against the best. When he performs against the No.1 team, then John Stern you can restart your rantings. Posted by Phat-Boy on May 29 2008, 03:15 AM GMT Amidst all the frankly ridiculous hype that Brett Lee has generated over the last 12 months, all those busy fussing themselves over him seem to forget that he has only taken wickets against two teams, both of which was on his home turf. I read with interest where one comment stated that Lee had 'proven himself on a number of surfaces against a variety of opposition.' No he hasn't. He proved himself against a Sri Lankan line-up bereft of form players except for Sangakkara (and he missed the first test) and Jayawardene. He bowled well against India, but that was for 4 tests, one of which was on the quickest pitch in the world. Hardly enough to qualify him as having dominated batting line ups 'in all conditions on all surfaces.' Fair - all an Australian has to do is take 5 or hit a 100 and he is the best in the world, so it seems. Posted by redneck on May 29 2008, 02:11 AM GMT i think its a bit premature to label sidebottom v steyn. Australia have played only 7 tests since the final ashes test in Sydney, i would say england and South Africa have played a lot more tests in the last 12 months. i think you will find brett lee has improved 10 fold and a man by the name of stuart clark has stepped up for Australia post McGrath. also Fidel Edwards is going to be a force in the next 5 years!!! if sidebottom is the best they will be able to throw at the Aussies next year then god help england! cant wait to see steyn bowl to the Aussies at the end of the year that will be his litmus test! Posted by KILLER_786_21 on May 28 2008, 21:23 PM GMT as long as taking wickets. in Asia sidebottom was man of the series in sri lanka after england won series in sri lanka with his super economic & wicket taking spells england had to chase small targets in sri lanka thats why were victorious in a place like sri lanka where they were the only 2nd team after aus to win series in last 10yrs.& ya sidebottom still needs to improve but he is a good bowler & has the potential to be best in world & i am an Indian but i must say if English press hype their players just after 6months of success then Indian press is also no different they call ishant next world no.1 just after 1good series & kevin was world best batsman but he was never at 10th spot in rankings in tests so he was still best young batsman in tests he is now in top5 in tests & top 10 in odi in rankings.zaheer,rp all are good but vaas is nothing in tests while zaheer & sidebottom are equally aggressive,effective & dangerous because they swing the ball at decent pace unlike rp while s.clark is a seam bowler not swing
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